Empowering voices

Cambridge Union's dynamic
all-female A-Team prepares
to tackle European Debating Championships

The Cambridge Union debating chamber

The Cambridge Union debating chamber

In the prestigious realm of competitive debating, where ideas collide and rhetoric reigns supreme, two remarkable individuals from The Cambridge Union are preparing to take the stage at the European University Debating Championships (EUDC). 

As the first all-female A-Team, Dharani Shashidaran and Maya Hollander are gearing up to represent Cambridge at the competition in Bulgaria. It's a Championship which promises to shine a light on the skills, empowerment and camaraderie that competitive debating fosters.

Dharani Shashidaran, a second-year Law student at Murray Edwards College, hails from Malaysia and embarked on her debating journey at the age of 14. Her desire to discuss subjects considered taboo in the conservative country ignited her foray into debate and led her to join The Union in her first year studying at Cambridge.

Maya Hollander, pursuing an MPhil in English at Fitzwilliam College, took an interest in debating during the virtual era of the pandemic, as she sought to overcome isolation by engaging in public speaking whilst studying for her undergraduate degree at Tel Aviv University. 

The European University Debating Championships, scheduled for 20th to 26th August in Burgas, Bulgaria, will serve as the next arena for the duo. EUDC, an annual tournament that brings together teams from universities across Europe, utilises the British Parliamentary Debate format, known for its rigorous testing of argumentation, analysis, and oratory skills. 

As the oldest debating society in the world, The Cambridge Union has helped to nurture Dharani and Maya's talents. With its rich history of hosting influential figures and providing a forum for intellectual discourse, The Union offers two distinct facets: hosting public debates (which you can watch on their YouTube channel) and fostering competitive debating excellence. The latter has propelled it to unparalleled success, boasting achievements in both European and World Championships.

We sat down with Dharani and Maya to hear their insights and experiences, shedding light on their journey from the start of their debating careers, through to their preparations for the upcoming championship.

Maya Hollander

Maya Hollander

Maya Hollander

The catalyst to debate

For Dharani, debating became an avenue to express her ideas freely whilst in school. She remarked, “Malaysia is a conservative country and debate was this very interesting sphere of people who talked about taboo topics. I had parents who were very supportive and wanted me to have that kind of engagement and exposure. So I went for one session and I was hooked. I was a really loud and obnoxious kid. Debate was a way for me to funnel my anger.”

Maya, on the other hand, discovered her affinity for debating during the era of virtual meetings. “My romance with debating started during the Zoom era when everything was online. I felt that I was not speaking to enough people and I felt very isolated, so I started debating on Zoom as a way to exercise that muscle of speaking in front of people,” she shared. “At the beginning I did it to get over that fear and discomfort that came from isolation and it really stuck! It was great fun, I got to connect with a lot of people first on zoom, and then a year later I flew out to meet some of the international people who I had been debating with.”

Dharani Shashidaran

Dharani Shashidaran

Dharani Shashidaran

Getting Started

Their debating experiences began with engaging topics that left a lasting impression. Dharani recalls, “My first topic ever was about abolishing the gender categories at the Oscars. I was given the side to abolish them. I was 14, really small and didn't make a lot of sense but I just went for it! They let me go in for a tournament two weeks later. For two years after that, people called me Oscar.”

Maya's debut topic revolved around the legalisation of enhancement drugs in sports competitions, “I don't remember what position I argued but there are four teams in a debate competition and my team came in third place, so I told myself ‘oh I didn't lose’ so I can keep doing this.”

Serious vs Silly

There are a lot of serious topics expected at EUDC, as Dharani notes, across the nine rounds, “you're likely going to have one on education, family, international politics and two from the region where the tournament is being held that year. This year is in Bulgaria, so you're likely to see a lot of Balkan topics which means you need to study everything from the current politics, all the way into their history.”

But there’s also room for fun in the debate hall. It’s up to the Chief Adjudication Panel to decide what the topics for that year are going to be and Maya points out, “It can be those sorts of serious topics, but it can also be, ‘This House would ban zoos’ which comes to mind.”

“It can be very simple funny things, pulling from movies or cartoons. I once had ‘This House believes that Voldemort should have had a nose'" says Dharani. “It was a good debate because it ended up being about whether or not villains should be humanised on television and how children perceive evil. We’ve also gotten topics on video games and K-pop. So competitive debating can be very funky, but it can also be very serious.”

Maya adds, “There was one when I was in Liverpool along the lines of, ‘You’re a Croatian musician who's representing Croatia in Eurovision and a superpowered AI wrote a really great song for you that has a better chance of winning. Would you use that AI song instead of your own if nobody would find out?’ A topic genuinely can be anything.”

How does a debate work?

In every debate there is a motion: a statement, idea or policy that is disputed and framed within the prefix ‘This House’. 

Usually, the motion is either a policy which changes the status quo (e.g. ‘This House Would Provide All Police Officers With Firearms’) or a statement, the truth or falsehood of which is examined in the debate (e.g. ‘This House Regrets the Decline of Marxism in Western Liberal Democracies’). 

There are two sides to the debate: the government and the opposition. The government supports the motion whilst the opposition opposes it. After the debate, the judges will decide which debaters were most persuasive.

How is a competitive debate structured?

The format The Cambridge Union uses in competitive debating is called British Parliamentary, this is the international standard for university-level competitive debating. 

In British Parliamentary, there are four teams of two speakers. Two of the teams (and hence four speakers) are on the government and two teams are on the opposition. 

Speeches alternate between the two sides, starting with the first government speech, and are usually up to either five or seven minutes in length. All the teams are trying to win the debate outright – this means that it is not the side which wins but a specific team.

The teams are then ranked first to fourth in the debate. 

Nurturing confidence

Competitive debating has been a way for the pair to identify their strengths and weaknesses and work on them together to help build confidence. Maya notes, “I still don't think I'm always very confident. One of the reasons I joined debating was to gain that confidence. And it's something that you continually work to improve. As part of our training plan we have a training milestone that we've set for ourselves that only has to do with building confidence.”

Dharani says, “We tend to get rattled when we go up against very good teams or teams with a reputation for having done very well. I think a lot of times we get nervous when we're in rooms where everyone's a man because they are always really loud, they're really in your face and we tend to shy away from that. So part of our training plan is working on pure confidence and it's made a massive difference to how we've been doing - we would shout crazy affirmations at each other.”

And we'd make sure to let people's compliments go to our heads” said Maya. “We would spend time working on those egos because you need that, especially when you're two women debating in a room full of men. And once we saw that we were able to do that and we improved on that, we saw serious improvement in our positions as well. We made finals, we did better at trials.”

Conquering challenges

Navigating this typically male-dominated arena, Dharani and Maya have persevered through scepticism. “It obviously can be very scary because you're putting yourself out there and it’s a very tough thing to do. Sometimes the men at competitions laugh at you when you're speaking or they speak loudly to each other but it tends to be the teams that are struggling [in the competition]. The more reputable teams are very respectful" says Dharani.

On a hopeful note, Maya highlights the significant increase of female representation in recent years, stating, “Women in debating have increasingly been taking up the space that they deserve. When I was training in Tel Aviv in my first two years of debating, I was able to see (and I was also trained by) some of those women who, maybe a decade ago I wouldn't have seen as many of. I saw the leading Tel Aviv team, who were two women that had English as a second language, making the finals and doing very, very well at World Championships and European Championships. So we do have those people to look up to and we do see women doing better and better and taking up space.”

“We also see respect and acknowledgement from the debating community for the fact that women are to some degree disadvantaged. We know that women's speaker points are on average lower, that women get judged for certain stylistic things that men don't. But the debating community is also very aware of that. So I think that we're slowly correcting that.”

Hundreds of small orange flowers in bloom against green grass.

Dharani and Maya with their friend and debating trainer/mentor Ben Goh (MPhil, History, Wolfson College). The duo credit Ben for being incredibly helpful, putting together a training plan for them and mentoring them on the skillsets they need to work on to succeed.

Dharani and Maya with their friend and debating trainer/mentor Ben Goh (MPhil, History, Wolfson College). The duo credit Ben for being incredibly helpful, putting together a training plan for them and mentoring them on the skillsets they need to work on to succeed.

Finding a balance

Dharani and Maya’s training regimen involves rigorous practice, mentorship, and self-improvement. They emphasise the importance of striking a balance between their academic pursuits and their passion for debating. “It's a lot of shifting around academic supervisions, sending out apology emails, asking for extensions. It can be rough but with debate, if you follow us on a tournament you will see that when we're in the airport, especially in Michaelmas Term, we’ll be sat there doing our reading and essays in the airport, waiting for flights, doing them on the flights, on the train.” Dharani quipped. 

Maya adds, “I was submitting things in Madrid during the day between rounds of debate. But sometimes we also do it the other way around and put aside our debate training. For instance, this past month when Dharani was doing her finals and with me working on my dissertation, we completely put debating aside. We're now going to get back on track and make up for that by doing extra training.”

Beyond the debate hall

The impact of debating extends far beyond the competition floor. Dharani and Maya credit debating for enhancing their critical thinking, analytical prowess, and communication skills. 

Maya revealed how her debate training influenced her academic writing for her recent dissertation. “I found myself writing my dissertation and trying to position my research within the critical context. I found myself referring to debate terms and thinking as a debater sometimes rather than a researcher,” she disclosed. “That mindset gave me the clarity about how to make arguments that I was then able to apply to academic writing.”

“I always say that I would have never gotten into Cambridge if I didn't debate” says Dharani. “A lot of the things that came out in my interview, whether we should kill terrorists, whether they should be afforded trials, were things I had talked about before and I had formed opinions on. Or for things I hadn't heard of, I was able to come up with answers on the spot because I'm so used to doing that in debate. It really helped me get into Cambridge and it's the same for job interviews too.

“It all intermingles with what I do across both debate and academia - one always helps the other. I’m constantly saying to Maya, I did this in school today and then I'll use it in debate and the other way around too in a lot of my exams” says Dharani.

The next generation

For those who have never debated before, the pair are very encouraging and emphasise the support available at Cambridge for beginners. Dharani explains, “The Cambridge Union has an introduction to competitive debating that the Competitive Debating Officers put on. It's a big presentation in the chamber, they welcome everyone, give out cupcakes with the Union logo on them, it’s a very beautiful introduction.”

“The competitive debating side of The Union then has three streams: beginner, intermediate and advanced and you have coaches for each stream for people to learn about debate. There are lots of novice tournaments across the UK that we send teams to, so lots of people have an opportunity and lots of novices bump up into advanced by second year or even within six months. So it's a good system.”

As they dive into their training schedule, we wish Dharani and Maya all the best for the EUDC at the end of August. Whatever the outcome, we have no doubt they’ll carry the legacy of The Cambridge Union onto the European stage, embodying the spirit of free expression and intellectual rigour that define both the Union and the wider University.

You can learn more about The Cambridge Union, including how to join, on their website.

Film credit: Adam Page

Film credit: Adam Page

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